Infowars Promotes Confusion on Geoengineering vs. Chemtrails 21

Alex Jones and David Knight have apparently decided to adopt the least-likely explanation for aerosol geoengineering – aka Chemtrails.

Infowars reporter, David Knight presents a rushed version of the events at the 2014 Geoengineering conference in Germany. (Video)

Citing a paper by Mike Hulme, Knight goes on to assume the discussion is about the chemtrails operation that is taking place now and was taking place long before the need for solar radiation management ot SAI/SAG could have been determined an “emergency” to mitigate the drastic effects of so-called “global warming”.

As global warming is increasingly revealed to be a fraud, the remaining explanation for spraying chemtrails would be to warm the climate and disrupt weather – a definition that squarely fits with what is contained in HR-2977 as “an exotic weapon”.

Investigator, Cliff Carnicom agrees that aerosols sprayed from planes are actually warming the atmosphere.  Another scientist, Joyce Penner agrees with Carnicom that contrails and thin, high clouds tend to warm the climate.  Cliff knows the difference between the troposphere and the stratosphere.  (about 20,000 to 35,000 feet)

When geoengineering activist, Cliff Carnicom speaks, activists and reporters are obliged to listen.   Carnicom’s paper that says aerosols are aggravating global warming have been published for almost a decade.  Why would Dane Wigington and a minority of the geoengineering activist community refuse to quote Carnicom unless they were choosing to promote the IPCC agenda?

As a result of Knight’s newscast, the reports coming from the Alex Jones network become more disinformation than fact.

Why Chemtrails is Not Geoengineering as Mitigation for Global Warming

DISINFO: Chemtrails are aerosols sprayed at 30 to 40 thousand feet as Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering (SAG)

FACT: The Stratosphere – as defied by geoengineers like David Keith – does not exist at mid latitudes below 40 thousand feet. Every mid-latitude altitude below 40,000 feet is in the Troposphere, not the Stratosphere. The Troposphere has always been the intended target for deployment of aerosols/chemtrails at flight levels far below 40,000 feet and as low 20,000 feet or less.

DISINFO:  Chemtrails are sprayed as an effort to cool the planet against the effects of CO2, the Greenhouse gas responsible for global warming as defined by the IPCC.

FACT: All the evidence from climate scientists Cliff Carnicom and Joyce Penner conclude that artificial clouds and contrails deployed in the troposphere at 30 to 40 thousand feet tend to warm the climate – not cool the climate.  The myth of reflecting sunlight back into space by deploying aerosols as artificial clouds in the troposphere, below 40,000 feet results in a net increase in atmospheric temperatures.  Sources:  Carnicom-a  Carnicom-b  Joyce Penner, TV News  Joyce Penner 1999 IPCC Aviation Report on Contrails

The observed and documented spraying of “black” chemtrails serves to drive the point home.

The term “Geoengineering” has been defined by the Royal Society as: “the deliberate large-scale manipulation of the planetary environment to counteract anthropogenic climate change.” – The Royal Society 2009

Chemtrails is defined in HR-2977 (PDF) as an “exotic weapon” – NOT a method to “counteract anthropogenic climate change”.

The 1999 conclusion that persistent contrails aggravate global warming/climate change is published by UN/IPCC scientist, Joyce Penner:


“Contrails tend to warm the Earth’s surface, similar to thin high clouds”.


With David Keith’s idea of geoengineering to counteract AGW, two diffferent aerosol programs are now invisioned to regulate planetary climate.

Will Geoengineers like David Keith spray sulfuric acid high in the stratosphere to prevent chemtrails from melting the ice-caps?

David keith mug-fRegardless your opinion of geoengineer, David Keith, his concept of SRM (Solar Radiation Management) or SAG (Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering) involves far fewer resources and would be deployed much differently than what millions of observers have been calling “chemtrails” since the mid 1990’s.

Chemtrails warm the climate as an “exotic weapon” as defined in HR-2977. Chemtrails are not to be confused with the Royal Society’s definition of geoengineering in the form of SRM or SAG to “counteract anthropogenic climate change”.

In stark contrast to what millions of observers witness as daily chemtrails spraying by hundreds of jet aircraft, David Keith’s comments on the Dec 9, 2013 Colbert Nation spoke to a limited geoengineering operation achievable by a few high performance jet aircraft delivering a total payload of only 20,000 tons of sulfurc acid (H2SO4) into the stratosphere. Keith’s proposal reveals that the scale of the covert chemtrails operation is orders of magnitude more intense in required resources, CO2 polluting aircraft, and payloads of pollution deployed into the atmosphere.


Chemtrails are not SAG or SRM

Keith suggests 20,000 tons of H2SO4 be released by jet aircraft into the stratosphere at 70,000 ft. By comparison, in excess of 200,000+ tons of chemtrails are routinely sprayed between 30 to 40,000 feet in the troposphere every day with the effect of warming the climate – an outcome that could be considered as either primary or “necessary” to the mission of weather modification. (Keith interview on Colbert Nation )

The media and government agencies admit that future emergency proposals for “geoengineering” the stratosphere to mitigate global warming are under consideration. Listen to Obama’s White House science advisor John Holdron.

The future could see two opposing aerosol operations: (1) Covert chemtrails that warms the climate and (2) Sulphuric acid as SAG/SRM to offset warming due to chemtrails.

Through years of confusion in agreeing on the definition of chemtrails vs. geoengineering, activists have incorrectly equated chemtrails with what is planned for future emergency geoengneering as SRM or SAG.

There is no research to establish effective solar radiation management when ionizing salts and metals are injected into the troposphere below 40,000 feet. Furthermore, chemtrails examined by telescopic lens are revealed in a variety of different colors from silver to a dirty brown.

Note: Of special interest in this video is (1) no normal gap between the engine and visible contrail (2) In jet #5 in sequence note the accidental release of aerosols from a compartment in the belly of the aircraft. (3) Some emissions are dingy in color and appear in the exhaust along with normal water vapor emissions that are much “brighter” in hue.

Therefore, it’s far more likely that the presence of aluminum in chemtrails is evidence of an exotic weapons program rather than an ingredient to cool the planet by reflecting sunlight back into space.

So the burning question remains:

Why do government agencies deny chemtrails while fully acknowledging the existence of future solar geoengineering programs?

Part of the answer goes back to the history of the National Weather Modification program organized by NASA in 1966.

Weather modification eventually came under the department of defense where top secret clearances of involved federal agencies became a virtual “gag order” on public disclosure due to the usual excuse of “national security”. Chemtrails and advanced electromagnetic sources are integrated to form a a global weather modification network hidden from public view . The ionospheric heater like the one at HAARP is only one example of a electromagnetic sources that integrate into a multi-layered weather modification network that has advanced to create weather and climate change on demand.

Keith’s suggests that 20,000 tons of sulfuric acid (H2SO4) would be required to geoengineer the stratosphere to protect against global warming.

Let’s use the hypothetical example of an aircraft capable of climbing to 70,000 feet in the stratosphere to release a 10 ton payload. With a one year timetable for completion, the initial seeding would require 2,000 sorties (trips) to deliver 20,000 tons of H2SO4 to the stratosphere within 12 months. This would require only six (6) aircraft deployments per day compared to the hundreds of similarly sized aircraft involved in deployment of chemtrails – the “exotic weapon” that UN/IPCC scientists agree is warming the climate.

The scale of Keith’s proposal to deploy 20,000 tons serves to demonstrate that the covert chemtrails operation is many times larger and uses hundreds of full-size jets capable of releasing 10 ton payloads at 37,000 feet in the troposphere every hour of every day since the mid, 1990’s.

This closer look at the metrics reveals chemtrails are neither SRM or SAG and challenges the definition of chemtrails as equivalent to geoengineering to allegedly cool the planet. Again, the case is further made when the UN/IPCC workgroup agrees with Cliff Carnicom’s conclusion that persistent contrails and resultant artificial cirrus clouds tend to warm the climate.

Finally, who would be so gullible as to presume Keith’s SAG plan to spray sulfuric acid would replace chemtrails – a covert operation that never pretended to be a benevolent program to mitigate global warming?

The future could see two opposing aerosol operations: (1) Covert chemtrails that warms the climate and (2) Sulphuric acid as SAG/SRM to offset warming due chemtrails.


The IPCC and geoengineers, Ken Caldeira and David Keith could feel somewhat justified in denying chemtrails because they know it’s not competing as an operation intended to mitigate global warming. Basically, they are saying that Chemtrails – the covert exotic weapons program – is none of their business due to national security issues.

It makes little difference to geoengineers if the climate is warming due to CO2 or chemtrails – It will add to Keith’s business interests to offer SRM no matter the collective cause for warming.

We might suspect that the UN/IPCC was hoping to run out the clock in order to allow passag of hard-core climate change legislation by ignoring how chemtrails warm the climate as long as it helps to make the case for policy makers.

But in view of the skyrocketing public awareness of warming by chemtrails and destructive weather modification schemes, the IPCC is more and more regarded as a consensus of climate liars.

To complicate matters more, new research says reducing the amount of sunlight reaching the planet’s surface by geoengineering may not undo climate change after all. Two German researchers used a simple energy balance analysis to explain how the Earth’s water cycle responds differently to heating by sunlight than it does to warming due to a stronger atmospheric greenhouse effect. Further, they show that this difference implies that reflecting sunlight to reduce temperatures may have unwanted effects on the Earth’s rainfall patterns. The results are now published in Earth System Dynamics, an open access journal of the European Geosciences Union (EGU). (source)

Chemtrails are not SRM (Solar Radiation Management) or SAG (Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering)

  • Chemtrails is an “exotic weapon” as defined in HR-2977 and a widely used term to describe unusual persistent jet emissions.
  • To say that chemtrails is “geoengineering” to mitigate global warming is misleading since it implies that chemtrails is the same as SRM or SAG.
  • To substitute Geoengineering, SAG and SRM for chemtrails as an attempt to achieve political correctness results in promoting misleading public information.
  • Chemtrails was first published by the US Departmment of Defense as the title to a chemistry manual for future US Air Force Pilots.
  • Chemtrails, the manual, is available online in PDF format
  • Chemtrails is defined in the Oxford dictionary
  • Chemtrails is a term originated by the prime suspects in the DoD.
  • Chemtrails are far more than what geoengineering implies.
  • Chemtrails contain ionizing salts and other chemicals that alter the electric characteristics of the atmosphere in ways that do not act as SRM/SAG to reflect sunlight back into space.
  • Chemtrails are sprayed in the troposphere between 30 to 40,000 feet, not in the stratosphere above 60,000 feet, where the term SAG is appropriate.
  • Chemtrails is a geophysical weapon capable of interaction with an array of powerful electromagnetic sources.
  • Chemtrails is used by observers around the planet to best describe what is polluting and endangering their atmosphere every hour of every day.


  1. I personally believe that we are seeing a massive depopulation effort. Chemtrails are designed to compromise the immune system, which will lead to sickness and ultimately death in those with the least effective ones: the elderly. As a bonus to these satan worshipping bastards, the elderly also happen to be the one group of people with the most consistently conservative value system. They just can’t have morality rearing it’s ugly head..not now… a peace might break out in the world.. and they can’t have that.

    • Sure, the whole thing is connected to the Georgia Guidestones. Destroy the population via every means necessary, make the young sick, weak, fat and autistic so they will be easy to control, by giving them toxic ‘low fat’ or ‘no fat’ vegan foods that will destroy their health and minds. They are also going after the young with toxic vaccines and toxic food.

    • The elderly should not be stereotyped as “conservative” or fearing a better moral government. The elderly have wisdom of long experience, they have seen what the young are experiencing and would share their thoughts, if given a chance, and most, maybe excepting the wealthy, are doing what they can to prepare their families and friends for a better world by insisting on truth, remembering the past perspective, and denouncing injustice in the present state of affairs.

  2. The planes I’ve seen have been extremely high. So high that they are little more than dots to the eye. If they are not in the stratosphere, they are awfully close. Wikipedia Commercial airliners typically cruise at altitudes of 9–12 km (30,000–39,000 ft) in temperate latitudes (in the lower reaches of the stratosphere)

    • Wiki is full of bad info when it comes to this subject. They like to blur comprehension with vague assertions. The definition of stratosphere in mid-latitudes becomes very apparent when goengineer, David Keith says he wants to spray sulfur at 65,000 feet (20 Km). All the science says these types of artificial clouds have a NET warming effect on the climate…. even if this is NOT the main goal. Government agencies have essentiall burned the books on public info for this topic. “Lower reaches” has no real definition.

      • I have no way of knowing whether the planes I see are in the stratosphere. I know that if it were not for the trails they were leaving I would not notice them at all. Typically.They appear as dots and are so far away I can only assume that they are planes. If they were any higher they would disappear from view altogether.

  3. A good point being made, though, in distinguishing between geoengineering and weather weapons. I thought it was a single program being used for both purposes, or weather warfare disguised as geoengineering. Still, what I have observed is that chemtrail activity seems organized around the position of the sun. I live in a big city and I have noticed that chemtrails generally crisscross in front of the sun, no matter where it is in the sky. It seems that the chemtrailer’s intent is to place a translucent film between the sun and the city. On several occasions I have seen them create a complete or partial metropolitan centered chemtrail canopy. As if they were trying to mitigate the sunlight over the city. Of course they might have just been interested in dumping a lot of poison on the metro area.

    • every day the operation is a little different. In Florida they spray over the Gulf at dark so the trails float over the peninsula looking a little like cirrus clouds. Position of an approaching weather front is far more predictable that the sun in my observation.

  4. Hi Harold:
    Thank you for your efforts and I certainly have learned a lot from you. I have more than enough evidence to prove that Global warming, Man made global warming, etc. are all FRAUD. Anybody who is promoting this FRAUD either is part of the agenda or is a controlled opposition or a useless non-thinker who choose to cover up their mistakes by continuing to push for their false claims. I also support Michael Murphy and have posted about the issue at:


    Before I go into any discussion I would like to let you know that I hold a BSC Civil Engineering degree with 8 yrs as a P. ENG in Iran and I am the former member of Professional Engineers of Ontario as EIT. I also hold a certificate in Interactive Multimedia web development from Algonquin College in Ottawa, Canada and an honors Business Administration diploma with distinction from Willis College in Ottawa, Canada. So what I am bringing here is based my background and research that I have done.
    There are two things I would like to bring to your attention. First is that chemtrails are being sprayed at any altitude using Airplanes, drones and even spaceships / rockets!
    Please watch:
    U. A. V. (Drones) used for chemetrails operations

    US Space shuttle covert mission was spraying chemtrails in space for HAARP

    In terms of chemtrails and geoengineering warming or cooling the planet I have already discussed it with you. However I would like to be more scientific this time. While I fully appreciate Clifford Carnicom’s research which goes back to 10 years ago, however even Clifford states that “Introduction of essentially any metallic or metallic salt into lower atmosphere will have the effect of heating up that lower atmosphere”. This statement may or may not be true but even if true does not mean it will have warming effect in the CLIMATE unless it is being sprayed 24/7 non stop for a decade or so. As you are aware there is a difference between climate and weather.

    When it comes to the effect of aerosol on CLIMATE and or WEATHER there are different parameters involved.
    1-Component of the aerosol
    2-Size of the aerosol
    3-Height at which the aerosol is being sprayed

    If aerosol is water vapor just like normal clouds or contrails or Carbon Black then surely it will have warming effect in the weather if it is persistent for a long period of time then in the climate because of both of these absorb the sun’s ray and heat up the atmosphere as Clifford stated.
    Before I go to the next discussion I would like to add that if there is nothing in the air and we have a clear sky then 100% of the sun’s ray reach the earth’s surface. If we add certain particles which I will discuss later in this post then less than 100% sun’s ray will reach the earth’s surface therefore having cooling effect. This is a common sense and does not need one to be a scientist to understand it.
    Now back to my discussion if we replace the water vapor and carbon black with certain metallic particles three things may happen:
    1-Aerosol may reflect back the sun’s ray to the sky
    2-Aerosol may absorb some of the sun’s ray
    3-Aerosol may or may not have any effect’s in longwave or infrared

    So as you can see component is very important.

    Now let’s go to the size of the particles. This is the rule, the smaller is the particle size the higher is the cooling effect it will have.

    The smaller sized particles will have no effect on long waves (the waves that are being reflected back from the earth surface to the space) and only will have effect on the short waves (the sun’s ray). This is based on the studies that have been done and have been confirmed by Prof. Alan Robock. See also Philip J. Rasch et al “Exploring the geoengineering of climate using stratospheric
    sulfate aerosols: The role of particle size” at:

    One quote from the study above states: “When the particles are small they primarily scatter in the solar part of the energy spectrum, and play no role in the longwave; when large they scatter and absorb in the solar wavelengths, but also absorb in the infrared?”

    but as you are aware chemtrails and geoengineering mostly contain nano sized Aluminum, barium, strontium, sulfuric acid etc. So it is perfectly safe to agree that these aerosols will have cooling effect in most cases.

    So conclusion is that nano sized particles will have more cooling effect than bigger sized particles.

    Now it is common sense that if the height of aerosol being sprayed in the sky is lower then more of the sun’s ray will reach the ambient above the aerosol within the earth’s atmosphere and if the height is higher less of it will reach that area. So this means the lower is the height of the aerosol the LESS cooling effect it will have because more warm air is present in the ambient above the aerosol within the earth’s atmosphere and the higher is the aerosol the MORE cooling effect it will have.

    I hope this clarifies everything and if you find these to be true then
    I would appreciate it if you justify your views to prevent any misinformation and confusion of the public.


    • Thanks for the post.

      Climate warming is not necessarily the desired outcome of the chemtrails operation but the science is pretty solid and non-controversial from Carnicom and Joyce Penner who published in 1999 for the IPCC.

      Nano-sized particles may have less warming effect but the chemtrails mission remains as an “exotic weapon”…. not climate mitigation.

      Metallic salts are mentioned as increasing atmospheric conductivity – not necessarily relavent to “warming” – But, as you know the conductivity feature that can easily be turned into “heating” the atmosphere with application of radar/radio waves.

      Different aerosols are sprayed out of different aircraft. Look at the video on the welcome page to see the dark-colored aerosols deployed from these aircraft. We have no way of knowing what any particular mission is designed to do.

      I agree on the aerosol deployments by other than aircraft. everything we see in 2014 is evidence these artificial cirrus clouds are not coming from simulated jet exhaust and phony contrails.


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  8. While we spend our time clarifying the scientific terminology and at what level the chemical aerosols are sprayed at, “they” continue to create the most demonstrative poisoning of the human race the earth has ever seen to this point!

    We are being slowly destroyed and I pray this is STOPPED soon for those, that it’s still not too late to save.

    The overall evil of this “poisoning” of human life is SO hidden and so cloaked by the complacency and chosen ignorance of this generation.

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